ICE (thread 8), Episode 1: Leviathan at the Border: What Hobbes Would Say About ICE

This episode walks Hobbes straight into today’s headlines: we use his grim, practical logic from Leviathan to think about ICE, border enforcement, and what a state actually owes its people. It’s less about moral outrage and more about whether power brings real, predictable safety or just spectacle.

We talk about why Hobbes would accept harsh tools if they keep the peace, but hate inconsistent, politicized enforcement even more. If you like political philosophy that gets its hands dirty, this one’s for you.